1/4 Horses

[Glen]

Lone Star is starting their Quarter Horse Meet this week. I don't know jack squat about those things but would like to find out. Few questions:

Can anybody recommend a good book on this subject?
Is Handicapping Speed about Quarter horses?
Donnie, a while back you mentioned that KM had forwarded you some good stuff on this. If so, can I get a copy.

Thanks,
Glen

[tbrown]

Handicapping Speed cover 1/4 horses too.
There were several article in a recent issue of Horseplay Magazine ifyou can get your
hands on a copy.

[Ken Massa]

Glen, our mutuel friend TC has a pick sheet for the Q's at LS. "Pure Gold Edge" is there. And by some odd coincidence the selections are almost exactly the same as the Qhorse system I gave to Donnie! Go figure, but get a hold of our tex-mex friend and tell him I said a free copy must be reserved for you each evening.

BTW: We were supposed to get both Harness and Quarter Horse data files a few years ago. Sadly, Equibase, TrackMaster and the NQHRA made an exclusive deal and the rest of the world was shut out. Richard M, from HDW, who was working at Equibase at the time, told me he voiced his opposition to that deal - but they wouldn't listen. With Los Alamitos (nation's top Quarter Horse track) in my back yard, I have been watching and betting quarter horses for over 25 years and had a powerful program at the ready if HDW had begun to provide that data for us. TrackMaster program was written by a guy that never attended a quarter horse race in his life.

[Donnie]

thru a friend I have the Q-program once again...the email Ken sent to me a few years back crashed and burned with a previous computer...anyone wishing a "copy" please email me at:

mrdonn@hotmail.com

Glen, I have your email at work and will forward it once I get there today!

BOL all!

[Glen]

Thanks guys. Handicapping Speed has been on my list forever. Guess I better take the plunge and buy the book.

KM, in suport of Tex Mex, I'll go ahead and drop the a few $$ on his Gold Sheet. Hopefully he will be rousting up some pretty females for his contest thing where ladies must decide to go with top Gold Sheet selection or go against. TC says there is only one requirement to be a contestant in his contest...Something about big squooshies or some such...

Donnie, thanks and I look forward to the email.

Anybody know if Ev1 is as good in 1/4 horses as T Breds?

[Donnie]

Hurri---
sent it to your home address! good luck!

[Cliff]

Glen,

I have a copy of "Handicapping Speed" by Charles Carroll. I'll mail it to you if you still need a copy. He includes some QBasic programming language if you're into that sort of thing.

BTW, I've run into Tommy C. when he's in "selection" mode, and I'm not referring to horses. His choices always have some obvious "talents".

Later,
Cliff

[Glen]

Sounds good Cliff, maybe we can swap out books or something one day at LS.
You can pick from any of the following...

Modern Pace Handicapping
Handicappers Condiditon Book
Handicapping Magic
Huey Mauls Pace book
Calibration Handicapping
Handicapping Trainers
The Claiming Game
Some book on Body Language
The Match Up
Modern Impact Values
Money Secrets at the Racetrack
Tomcats Wagering Book
Beyer on Speed
Chuck Badone's Book
Helms Sire Ratings
Betting Thoroughbreds by Davidowitz
Kinky Handicapping by Cramer
Computer Discoveries by Quirin
Pace Makes the Race
Tommy Castillios book on Modern Tex Mex Dishes
and maybe a couple others that I can't remember off hand now...

Thanks,
Glen

[Donnie]

Glen,

What the hell is Calibration Handicapping??

That last one looks pretty interesting...any pics in that one?? LOL

[Glen]

Donnie,

Calibration Handicapping Link below:

http://www.horseracinghandicapper.com/calhan.html

Think Carl and Canuck have read or used his stuff. I have only read about 1/2 of it. Think it is a good book for those who are using PP all the time. Perhaps C^2 can comment further on it...

[Cliff]

Sounds good Glen. Email me at your convenience at cliffhartnitt@home.com and we'll work out the details.

[tbrown]

It is mainly a three pronged approach to handicapping-pace analysis, "moves" in last rae, and Beyer Figs/3rd fractions.
Not a bad read and the ideas are pretty sound- I use it as part of my pace analysis only I tend to use HTR velocity and Crammer figs more lately. Can be used with no computers and just a pencil at the track. He used to put out a free newsletter, but now he sells picks.