World's biggest Superfecta ???

[overdog]

Last race at Woodbine, Monday October 10th, Canadian Thanksgiving.

7 Furlongs on the Turf---field of 13 (after scratches)

Came 10-5-3-13. Odds respectively, 12.5, 9.7, 37.7, 4.5 to 1.

Payouts $27.00; 10.90; 7.80
----; 12.80; 8.20
----; -----; 20.00

$ 2 Exacta was $443.10
$ 2 Triactor was $8,294.70

And the all-time show stopper:

the Superfecta, (only $1 in this case!!! = $167,534.55

I had the 10, 5 & 3, and tossed the 2 faves and was nosed out of fourth. My selection's odds were 24.10 to 1. I think I would have won Southern Ontario had I hit.

Back to the drawing board.

Fraser

[km]

Don't get too excited Fraser!, the entire superfecta pool for the race was only $45,000.

It was hit by dimers only === posted payoff x10.

Read the thread on here "10 cent Superfecta All Burger" for something similar that happened at FPX last month.

[AwolAtHTR]

aah Thank you Overdog for this sample that says the Awol rules
for computing ONE-MORE-TICKET is wrong in 2006

and Ken may I put another plug for the Money/Chart Export by HTR

My chart extraction from Equibase with dollar tickets has a special
rule to compute '..one more ticket..' for both Trifecta and Superfecta

Well WOX-2005-10-10-09th with pool 45,602, dollar paid 167,534
BUT, this appears to say one ticket would have paid 45,602
and, one more ticket would have been $17,100.
BUT, this 'says' that ONE ticket paid $34,200

aaah, WRONG, apparent there were about fifty dime times.
that is, a single dollar ticket was NOT paid but multiple dime tickets

aaah, what is the correct count of dime tickets?

in other words, the above 50 ticket count is just my rough guess.
and, have not tried to define a dime ticket count formula


HOWEVER, to have the HTR Money export report Trifecta and super,
ONE-MORE-TICKET, counts would only be of interest
to those folks that are researching Trifecta and Superfecta systems.
Since this count of researchers is likely VERY SMALL, the need for
this '..technically correct..' value should be a VERY LOW priority.
In other words, if rules are not simple, then do not bother!!

This is a challenge for designing the data table with the correct value
but, WHY BOTHER? Why not just a SIMPLE flag that says the dime
(or fifty cent trifecta!!) was paid. Then the researcher is alerted to
the fact that the payoff should NOT be used as part of a mechanical
system but needs to be in a SPECIAL subgroup of races.

so, again THANK YOU OverDog for this sample about dime payoffs.

[km]

Two players apparently hit it for 10c, they split the pool.

Superfecta takeout in Canada is about 30%

[MikeDee]

The tracks could end all of this confusion if they would simply report payoffs in the lowest denomination that one can bet at their track. Even a horse players can do the math to figure what a $1 or $2 super ticket paid if you gave the payoff for the dime wager only.

[km]

Another of these at HAW-9 today (Saturday 10/15)

Winning super is listed at $344,000 !! (real payoff for 10c = $34,400).

Someone got the whole pool for a dime. The super pool was about $45,000.

[MikeDee]

how anyone could pick the 6 and 3 for the one and two hole is beyond me, other then a WAG. I the bottom horses on my ticket the 7 and 12.

[tomcat]

Hey Mike, howabout the P4 at Keeneland yesterday....is that the biggest?
162K!

[MikeDee]

162K......that must have been 4 bombs. Did you have them or where they below your cutoff? :)

[overdog]

In Canada we have a number of advantages over our American friends. One benefit is that Canada breaks to a nickel not a dime as all tracks south of the 49th do.

This means oddly enough that we can't have dime supers, only 20 cents per way.
So if the WO pool looks like two dime winners it was probably ONE winning 20cent ticket.

Main advantage has always been our income tax rules regarding gambling winnings------you don't pay any up here! None of this nonsense of winning One million dollars which turns out to be $50,000 for 20 yrs.


That sound you hear is me switching to Plan C.

Good luck all,
Fraser